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teaching 'what I want to' 
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I'm working with some high school students and they have a difficult time with expressions like:

That's what I want
That's where I hang out

Does anyone have a good activity to introduce/practice this type of relative clause?

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Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:43 pm
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Mark,
These may be a bit too difficult to teach to Japanese because their language makes these statements more simplified or actually not necessary to say. I am asking a few of my Japanese counterparts to see if there is an esay or uncomplicated way to define these phrases. Will keep in touch....


Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:38 pm
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Yeah, much like many others have problems, this one is due to the fact that in Japanese they just don't say things this way. So, it's one of those language items they have a hard time grasping.

I've been working on clarification with wh- words:

Mark: I went to blahblahblah yesterday and ate a hamburger.
S1: I'm sorry. You went where?
Mark: I went to McDonalds.

Mark: There I met garblygook and we talked about going to see a movie.
S2: I'm sorry. You met who?
Mark: I met my friend from work.

I'm thinking about trying to build off of that.

Mark: I want to go flingly-flangin with my children on Saturday but it's supposed to rain.
S1: You want to do what?
Mark: I want to go flingy-flangin. You know you have the big thing on the string and you run. The it goes up into the air.
S1: You mean flying a kite.
Mark: Yes, that's what I want to do. Fly a kite.

Anyway, that for introduction.

Then on some cards write:
what I have to do
what I need to do
what I want to do
where I want to go
where I usually hang out
...

The students draw a card and then give some examples and try to get the other students to say what's on their card.

I'm still deliberating. The class is on Friday. :|

The big problem is it doesn't seem interesting. Also, beyond our little scripted fun I can't see them using it that much.

I'm definitely still looking for other ideas.

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That's what I want
That's where I hang out


Yes I must confess I have never had to teach this! and the hardest thing is keeping all the technical stuff simple! (or as simple as possible)

here is my 2c worth
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... there doesn't appear to be any easy way with out getting into some grammar?

I would start with simple sentences
That is sugar, that is rice (explain sugar, rice are nouns/things)

now .... Then (with some flash cards)

That is a car
I want a car


If I was doing it .... I would split it up into 2 bits

1st = thats (that is)
2nd = what I want ( a noun phrase or a substitute for a noun)

then if you really want to go further/deeper

you can say we don't need 2 cars (a car X2)

ie we don't say; That is a car I want a car (normally)

we can replace them with WHAT (what is the question word for things) and we put it in the 1st position (where the 1st car was)
hence we end up with;

Thats what I want

...... but do they really need to know all this?

so for the next one ============
That's where I hang out

it would breakdown to 2 sentences; Thats the place and I hang out ........ (.... = place)
again we don't need place X 2 and this time we use where because where is the question wrod for places)
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..... yes it involves a little grammar but ......? and its not easy but its not for 1st graders!


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