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Im having trouble trying to teach some songs to my kindergarten kids. Ive left it kind of late actually as the summer concert is next week.

Usually in my classes we do a lot of songs, but they are all dance type songs, but now im having to teach just singing.

I cant play piano, so just use the cd. Usually trying to say the words before they come up in the song.

From 5 and 4 and 3 year olds, ob-la-di, yellow submarine, old mcdonald(kids have trouble remembering order)

wish i had a good singing voice


Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:46 pm
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Hi, It's amazing what kids can do given enough time to prepare, and exposure to the material. It sounds to me like the songs may be a bit too difficult for that age? Are you using those Beatles songs? I don't know the level of your students, so maybe they are fine.

Given the amount of time you have, you could try something like Let's Count or What's Your Name? Or Hokey Pokey? these are free downloads from my site. Then at least you have one easy fun one in the bag, and you can try some more with the more challenging ones:

http://www.dreamenglish.com/numbers
http://www.dreamenglish.com/whatsyourname.html
http://www.dreamenglish.com/hokeypokey

My other suggestion is to pre-teach the vocabulary before you even press play on the CD. Hope this helps!

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this is a japanese kindergarten that gets english for 30minutes a week. But its a private school and parents pay a lot, they expect the best of everything.

Those songs have already been chosen, its always the same situation of having to sing adult songs so the school can show off. But without the cd, they arent so good.

I wish i could do hokey pokey, love that song. 2 year olds are doing open shut them song, maybe they are the only age that allows dance


Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:36 pm
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To help them, you can use flashcards for the words. It works very well and helps them remember the words faster. If you can mime some of them as well...


Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:51 pm
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Hi there,

Yes young kids need a lot of exposure before they can memorise a song and be able to sing along to it.

My approach is to pre-teach the language first using reral object/flashcards and games for the main nouns and key sentences.

Then I tell a story that uses those words, the kids participate more and more in the story telling over a series of lessons, and the song I use has the same words, language and even characters.

It's therefore much more realistic to expect the children to be able to sing along to the song.

To help the childrenremember the order in Old MacDonald you can hold up a pictures of the animals or give children different pics of the animals (though using real toy animals is better at that age) and you point to the kids when their animal is coming up and they hold it up - could take some practise over a few lessons.

That is the kind of thing that keeps the children implicated in the music even while they are still learning the melody and words but without having them sitting their passively or becoming restless while the music plays.

On this page you may receive a free sample of the process described above including games, flashcards, an illustrated story and the song to go with it.

http://www.teachingenglishgames.com/3-5.htm
and the songs are here:
http://www.teachingenglishgames.com/eslsongs.htm

Enjoy :D
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:49 pm
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I usually mime a sign for a few of the words from the song. For an example when I clap my hands they say “Old” than I mime eating for “Macdonald” and like that for every word. And I just mime and the children repeat the word. After that I play the song and when a particular word comes, I mime the sign and they say the word. After a few times, they start singing, or at least saying the words they remember. It takes a while, but eventually they learn the song.

I think the Beatles are too difficult for kindergarten children. You might try

http://www.kizclub.com/rhymes/blacksheep.pdf

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I use dream english and genki English songs a lot in my kids classes

probably dream english is better for the kindergarten level

I recommend giving them a try

see above for the URL


Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:28 pm
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I use Super Simple Songs in my Kindergarten classes. http://www.supersimplesongs.com/ They redo classic kids songs and create new songs for all learners of English. They have an English Language School in Japan if you want to meet them.


Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:21 pm
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yes, i think Super Simple Songs is the best for kindergarten. I used a couple of genki english songs, but they seem too fast for them.

About the advice with regards to the old macdonald etc... Id love to do that, but i have to do stupid songs for kids.

for 3-4 they will do the song Sing by Carpenters.
for 4-5 they will do the song Oh Suzanna which is so fast
for 5-6 they will do the song Oh Bla Di by Beatles.

Hard to use cards etc ;(

I wish i could sing in a nice voice then they could repeat after i sing a line, but we try cd as i cant play piano. I guess the music teacher should teach them!


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some of those songs sound too difficult to me (??)

at this age keep things simple. On the above sites there are many good songs and there are lots of others you can download


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I tried the ones on kizclub.com and they worked so well, thanks for sharing them!!! For older students I use the ones in british council kids webpage


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yes, they are too difficult, but i dont get to choose, except the youngest kids which will do rock scissors paper song which is the only fun song.

Oldest kids (5years) are singing we are the world! just takes a lot of practice, but very hard to get the long sentance, and everytime Bruce Springsteen starts singing, they cant understand and start laughing.

Thank god for christmas holidays!!


Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:14 pm
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yes, I don't envy you having to do those songs at that age

Merry Christmas!


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blueguyblue wrote:
I use Super Simple Songs in my Kindergarten classes. http://www.supersimplesongs.com/ They redo classic kids songs and create new songs for all learners of English. They have an English Language School in Japan if you want to meet them.


we have some of their vids copied to dvds and the kids love them :wink:


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